And Activision Milks Guitar Hero Even Further...

by Elmand on Thu Feb 12, 2009 7:31 pm

Activision is planning a Guitar Hero 'greatest hits' compilation, due to be released this year.

The information came in a conference call from Activision CEO Mike Griffith, so there's not much information to go on other than it'll be released in Q2 this year.

It will also include "full-band versions of some of the most popular songs from previous Guitar Hero games and will be made available for the 360, PS3 and Wii."

http://www.oxm.co.uk/article.php?id=8365

What a fucking pisstake. Yet I know I'll fucking end up buying it.

by Exodist on Thu Feb 12, 2009 7:46 pm

Ill buy it, there are plenty of songs from the first Guitar Hero that I'd love to play simply with a working HO/PO system. Guitar Hero is arguably one of their most popular franchises going, they can't help but milk it. Its morons like me that support them by buying each and every game, but I love them, so I won't stop.

by Haisheikah on Fri Feb 13, 2009 12:01 am

Music games piss me off. They are the worst gaming Fad since those fucking Dance mix games. They masquerade how pointless they are by essentially templating a fucking BUTTON MASHING GAME with a rock music theme, a McDonalds toy esque guitar and some crappily made modes.

The sooner these fucking games die the better. There is nothing fun about button mashing mindlessly (not freely of course) and there is certainly nothing fun about a game that requires time over any form of skill.

by TroopahFTW on Fri Feb 13, 2009 12:17 am

Haisheikah wrote:The sooner these fucking games die the better. There is nothing fun about button mashing mindlessly (not freely of course) and there is certainly nothing fun about a game that requires time over any form of skill.

lol?
lol?
lol?
1v1?
Thought not
lol?

by Roosetifer on Fri Feb 13, 2009 12:30 am

Haisheikah wrote:Music games piss me off. They are the worst gaming Fad since those fucking Dance mix games. They masquerade how pointless they are by essentially templating a fucking BUTTON MASHING GAME with a rock music theme, a McDonalds toy esque guitar and some crappily made modes.

The sooner these fucking games die the better. There is nothing fun about button mashing mindlessly (not freely of course) and there is certainly nothing fun about a game that requires time over any form of skill.

No form of skill?

That's bull, by that means you can claim Mega Man requires no skill because you put enough time into you'll get the timing. Its the same with all games, put in enough time and you'll get good.

Is playing the real guitar skill? Yes, it requires precise timing and to know the general layout of the guitar. Granted the real guitar requires more training to play well, but some songs are actually harder in GH than in RL, for example Monkey wrench, a relatively easy song to play in real life, certainly harder in GH.

Point being GH requires timing, which is the general basis for all skill in games.

by Haisheikah on Fri Feb 13, 2009 12:42 am

Roosetifer wrote:
Haisheikah wrote:Music games piss me off. They are the worst gaming Fad since those fucking Dance mix games. They masquerade how pointless they are by essentially templating a fucking BUTTON MASHING GAME with a rock music theme, a McDonalds toy esque guitar and some crappily made modes.

The sooner these fucking games die the better. There is nothing fun about button mashing mindlessly (not freely of course) and there is certainly nothing fun about a game that requires time over any form of skill.

No form of skill?

That's bull, by that means you can claim Mega Man requires no skill because you put enough time into you'll get the timing. Its the same with all games, put in enough time and you'll get good.

Is playing the real guitar skill? Yes, it requires precise timing and to know the general layout of the guitar. Granted the real guitar requires more training to play well, but some songs are actually harder in GH than in RL, for example Monkey wrench, a relatively easy song to play in real life, certainly harder in GH.

Point being GH requires timing, which is the general basis for all skill in games.

Ok not so much 'no skill' in terms of difficulty. However the game IS just one core element.

See colour, push button.

It's the skill game of the casual gamer, they finally have something that they can be good at, mainly because the real gamers are so fucking bored by the ONE game mechanic that they either don't try or don't care.

by TroopahFTW on Fri Feb 13, 2009 12:56 am

Haisheikah wrote:
Roosetifer wrote:
Haisheikah wrote:Music games piss me off. They are the worst gaming Fad since those fucking Dance mix games. They masquerade how pointless they are by essentially templating a fucking BUTTON MASHING GAME with a rock music theme, a McDonalds toy esque guitar and some crappily made modes.

The sooner these fucking games die the better. There is nothing fun about button mashing mindlessly (not freely of course) and there is certainly nothing fun about a game that requires time over any form of skill.

No form of skill?

That's bull, by that means you can claim Mega Man requires no skill because you put enough time into you'll get the timing. Its the same with all games, put in enough time and you'll get good.

Is playing the real guitar skill? Yes, it requires precise timing and to know the general layout of the guitar. Granted the real guitar requires more training to play well, but some songs are actually harder in GH than in RL, for example Monkey wrench, a relatively easy song to play in real life, certainly harder in GH.

Point being GH requires timing, which is the general basis for all skill in games.

Ok not so much 'no skill' in terms of difficulty. However the game IS just one core element.

See colour, push button.

It's the skill game of the casual gamer, they finally have something that they can be good at, mainly because the real gamers are so fucking bored by the ONE game mechanic that they either don't try or don't care.

lol? again.

I am a real gamer. I have been a gamer my whole life. Just because I am good at Guitar Hero games, I am therefore a casual gamer and can't be bothered putting time into hardcore games?

Halo can be classed as 1 core element, see enemy, shoot.
Fifa, get ball, score a goal.
Disney Sing it, sing like a motherfuckin champion.

by Haisheikah on Fri Feb 13, 2009 1:03 am

No...you just have bad taste.

Anyway, all of the above include more than that. GH seriously ONLY involves the one mechanic, either way, I guess it's cool. If you like a game that's a series of quick time events till the games over without the cool cutscenes, then that's just you.

by CYBERFROST on Fri Feb 13, 2009 1:06 am

Haisheikah wrote:No...you just have bad taste.

Anyway, all of the above include more than that. GH seriously ONLY involves the one mechanic, either way, I guess it's cool. If you like a game that's a series of quick time events till the games over without the cool cutscenes, then that's just you.

Yeah, go waggle your Wiimote about.

by Roosetifer on Fri Feb 13, 2009 1:07 am

Haisheikah wrote:No...you just have bad taste.

Anyway, all of the above include more than that. GH seriously ONLY involves the one mechanic, either way, I guess it's cool. If you like a game that's a series of quick time events till the games over without the cool cutscenes, then that's just you.

I has more than 1. The clicking and moving of the hands count as each individually, then you've got hammer-ons and pull-offs.

And Im guessing you havnt seen all those cool scenaries in GH? If someone did that on stage that be awesome, so whats the difference?

by Haisheikah on Fri Feb 13, 2009 1:16 am

CYBERFROST wrote:
Haisheikah wrote:No...you just have bad taste.

Anyway, all of the above include more than that. GH seriously ONLY involves the one mechanic, either way, I guess it's cool. If you like a game that's a series of quick time events till the games over without the cool cutscenes, then that's just you.

Yeah, go waggle your Wiimote about.

Funny how a Nintendo fanboy still finds time to be a bigger 360 fan as well.

@ Ross

Which of those doesn't include seeing a colour and pushing a button to be guaranteed success?

by Shaun2k5 on Fri Feb 13, 2009 1:52 am

Haisheikah wrote:
CYBERFROST wrote:
Haisheikah wrote:No...you just have bad taste.

Anyway, all of the above include more than that. GH seriously ONLY involves the one mechanic, either way, I guess it's cool. If you like a game that's a series of quick time events till the games over without the cool cutscenes, then that's just you.

Yeah, go waggle your Wiimote about.

Funny how a Nintendo fanboy still finds time to be a bigger 360 fan as well.

@ Ross

Which of those doesn't include seeing a colour and pushing a button to be guaranteed success?

You don't like Guitar Hero - nor do I but the difference if I'm not causing a piss up over nothing. If you don't like it then ignore its topics.

by Hodgieoreoh on Fri Feb 13, 2009 1:53 am

I hate "rhythm based music games" (LOL) ...But that's just my opinion. There becomes a point where you realise you aren't a rock god, but a cunt with a plastic toy. And I mean cunt in the nicest possible way for people who like these games. (:

by CYBERFROST on Fri Feb 13, 2009 2:11 am

Hodgieoreoh wrote:I hate "rhythm based music games" (LOL) ...But that's just my opinion. There becomes a point where you realise you aren't a rock god, but a cunt with a plastic toy. And I mean cunt in the nicest possible way for people who like these games. (:

Like when you're playing Gears, Halo or CoD and realise your not a huge bullet eatting man, a super soldier or a war hero, right?

by TroopahFTW on Fri Feb 13, 2009 2:15 am

Hodgieoreoh wrote: There becomes a point where you realise you aren't a rock god, but a cunt with a plastic toy. And I mean cunt in the nicest possible way for people who like these games. (:

Not everyone who plays these games thinks they are rock gods. I know it's a game, I play it as a game. I just happen to be fucking good at it.

by Exodist on Fri Feb 13, 2009 8:34 am

TroopahFTW wrote:
Hodgieoreoh wrote: There becomes a point where you realise you aren't a rock god, but a cunt with a plastic toy. And I mean cunt in the nicest possible way for people who like these games. (:

Not everyone who plays these games thinks they are rock gods. I know it's a game, I play it as a game. I just happen to be fucking good at it.

Exactly where I stand. Hey, I've even tried playing real guitar and didn't enjoy it, you can't really ask for more.

by Hodgieoreoh on Fri Feb 13, 2009 1:52 pm

CYBERFROST wrote:
Hodgieoreoh wrote:I hate "rhythm based music games" (LOL) ...But that's just my opinion. There becomes a point where you realise you aren't a rock god, but a cunt with a plastic toy. And I mean cunt in the nicest possible way for people who like these games. (:

Like when you're playing Gears, Halo or CoD and realise your not a huge bullet eatting man, a super soldier or a war hero, right?

But I am though. Ou RAH!! ...Different thing there though, as you're not wielding a plastic gun. =/ Fair enough if you like GH/RB though.

by Exodist on Fri Feb 13, 2009 3:19 pm

Hodgieoreoh wrote:
CYBERFROST wrote:
Hodgieoreoh wrote:I hate "rhythm based music games" (LOL) ...But that's just my opinion. There becomes a point where you realise you aren't a rock god, but a cunt with a plastic toy. And I mean cunt in the nicest possible way for people who like these games. (:

Like when you're playing Gears, Halo or CoD and realise your not a huge bullet eatting man, a super soldier or a war hero, right?

But I am though. Ou RAH!! ...Different thing there though, as you're not wielding a plastic gun. =/ Fair enough if you like GH/RB though.

I just find it fun... when I play it, I know Im just some guy sat there with a plastic guitar, but I still find it an enjoyable game to play, hency why I kept playing it, getting better and better.

And yeah, Guitar Hero takes skill > time. Some of my friends have been playing as long as I have who aren't quite as good as me.

by **D_C** on Fri Feb 13, 2009 3:24 pm

I have to say, I do like the GH games, as you can really see the progress you are making. I can remember taking it home and trying hard, just to see what it was like. I failed miserably, and went to easy.

Now I can do quite a lot on expert, and its good to know you've improved.

by TroopahFTW on Fri Feb 13, 2009 3:51 pm

It's also a part casual part hardcore game. It can be played casually like any game, you can just play the songs you like and not really care how many notes you hit and your score.

Or you can play hardcore like Exodist, Sonic and I play. We try to get 100% on certain songs, try and maximize our scores by using starpower in the correct places, log onto Scorehero to improve our ranks on the leaderboards etc.

by Adamzzz on Fri Feb 13, 2009 4:37 pm

The main reason why they're not nearly my favourite game is because I'm utter shit at them. I can barely do hard. Then again, if I learnt how to do hammer-ons/pull-offs, I'd probably do alot better.

by Exodist on Fri Feb 13, 2009 5:39 pm

Adamzzz wrote:The main reason why they're not nearly my favourite game is because I'm utter shit at them. I can barely do hard. Then again, if I learnt how to do hammer-ons/pull-offs, I'd probably do alot better.

Just keep it at. I did Guitar Hero 1 on Expert without HO/PO... mainly because the damn HO/PO system was broke. I still managed to do most of GH2 on Expert without using the HO/PO simply because they were new to me and I needed to get the hang on them. Hard is easy anyway. Wink

And yeah, like Troopah said, I play to improve my score. I've got over 30 Expert FC's on GH3 and there are plenty more for me to try (that are achievable for me at least). I do log into Scorehero to check star power paths, but to be honest I can't be arsed to take pictures and shit so I don't upload many scores. They're pretty out-dated now. But yeah, I play Guitar Hero HARDCORE.

by Elmand on Fri Feb 13, 2009 6:11 pm

Guitar Hero is instant success.

Real guitar isn't.

That's the main difference that people can't accept, some people don't want to spend years trying to learn to play a song on guitar which they can play right away on guitar hero.

by Elmand on Fri Feb 13, 2009 6:25 pm

Rumoured setlist

GH1
Bark at the Moon
Cowboys from Hell (LIVE)
Godzilla
Hey You
I Love Rock and Roll
Killer Queen
More Than a Feeling
No One Knows
Smoke on the Water
Stellar
Take It Off
Take Me Out
Thunder Kiss '65
Unsung

GH2
Beast and the Harlot
Carry On Wayward Son
Cherry Pie
Free Bird
Freya
Heart-Shaped Box
Killing in the Name
Laid to Rest
Message in a Bottle
Monkey Wrench
Mother
Psychobilly Freakout
Shout at the Devil
Stop
Them Bones
Trippin' on a Hole in a Paper Heart
The Trooper
Woman
YYZ

GH3
Barracuda
Cult of Personality (Original)
Hit Me With Your Best Shot
Lay Down
Miss Murder
Raining Blood
Rock and Roll All Nite
Through the Fire and Flames

GH 80s
Ain't Nothin' But a Good Time
Caught in a Mosh
Electric Eye
I Wanna Rock
Play With Me
Round and Round

GH Aerosmith
Back in the Saddle

Pretty good, Beast And The Harlot and TTFAF would be great on drums.

by Haisheikah on Fri Feb 13, 2009 6:35 pm

Shaun2k5 wrote:
Haisheikah wrote:
CYBERFROST wrote:
Haisheikah wrote:No...you just have bad taste.

Anyway, all of the above include more than that. GH seriously ONLY involves the one mechanic, either way, I guess it's cool. If you like a game that's a series of quick time events till the games over without the cool cutscenes, then that's just you.

Yeah, go waggle your Wiimote about.

Funny how a Nintendo fanboy still finds time to be a bigger 360 fan as well.

@ Ross

Which of those doesn't include seeing a colour and pushing a button to be guaranteed success?

You don't like Guitar Hero - nor do I but the difference if I'm not causing a piss up over nothing. If you don't like it then ignore its topics.

This is my opinion Shaun, I wanted to discuss the futility of GH so I posted it.

Christ.

by Exodist on Fri Feb 13, 2009 7:18 pm

Elmand, looks like you're already excited at the possibility of this. I look forward to playing some of those GH1 songs with decent HO/PO. Drums on songs should be interesting too. Hope this is all true... its only a rumour now right?

EDIT - Nevermind, just the songs are rumoured. Have to admit I look forward to this in many ways...

by Elmand on Fri Feb 13, 2009 9:04 pm

Exodist wrote:Elmand, looks like you're already excited at the possibility of this. I look forward to playing some of those GH1 songs with decent HO/PO. Drums on songs should be interesting too. Hope this is all true... its only a rumour now right?

EDIT - Nevermind, just the songs are rumoured. Have to admit I look forward to this in many ways...

As I never had 80's or GH1 there'll be some new songs, and there are songs I'd like to play on other instruments, but regardless of that it is still a blatant cash-in that I'll end up buying.

by Sonic666 on Fri Feb 13, 2009 9:57 pm

Give me the real versions of CFH and Beast and The Harlot and they have themselves a deal.

by Elmand on Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:44 pm

Sonic666 wrote:Give me the real versions of CFH and Beast and The Harlot and they have themselves a deal.

I think they'll all be masters now. It's the standard.

And yeah, Beast and the harlot cover was shit.

by yoshmeister on Sat Feb 14, 2009 2:06 am

They put Jessica on there by Allman Brothers or I KILL THEM. Worse for them, I won't buy it. THEIR CHOICE >:U

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